Added: Oct 30, 2007
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http://representativepress.googlepages.com/overcomingzionism* see link above for details and book info ** see link below for revealing quote *http://representativepress.googlepages.com/Kovel.htmlJoel Kovel, author of Overcoming Zionism, said, "What we don't have is any kind of real debate on this subject in our country at this time ... basically these Zionist repression groups have had pretty much a free hand ... that's why I wrote the book. I mean, I wanted to -- I disregarded all the taboos, that you're not supposed to talk about Israel in any depth in this country." [The distributor dropped his book after receiving threatening emails from a Zionist pressure group.] "They panicked this summer when they dropped my book. I mean, they were pressured by this Zionist watchdog team." [But the Committee for Open Discussion of Zionismwas able to convince them to continue distributing it.] "We have a committee forming, Committee for Open Discussion of Zionism, codz.org. And we're planning a conference and all. But the committee leapt into action, and we were amazed at just how eloquent and, you know, basically fed up a lot of people were with being intimidated by these kinds of tactics. They just want to suppress an open discussion of this subject. ... I grew up in a very conventional Jewish home, except for the fact that there was a lot of division on this subject, so I think from an early age I learned to take a certain distance from it and to think critically about it.""The Jewish people have been, you know, very largely deprived of a real opportunity to look at what's going on in the state of Israel." "The notion of Zionism, as that there is this kind of destiny of the Jewish people to have their own state, is just the wrong idea. And it's an idea that requires signing onto imperialism. It means signing onto ethnic cleansing. It means -- despite everything that has been said about it, it means basically becoming a racist situation, where you're oppressing an indigenous population and depriving them of their right to existence ... I join hands with those people who feel that the time has come to basically think of Israel in the same category as South Africa, as a state that just has gone wrong and needs replacement ... the comparison was interesting, because Tutu and other leaders of the freedom struggle in South Africa who visited Palestine have always been asked, well, how does it compare? And he says, well, it's not the same thing, Israel is actually worse. He actually said, Israel is a worse place than Apartheid South Africa was."http://tinyurl.com/36dqpw"This is much worse than apartheid." - Archbishop Desmond Tutusee linkhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/30/222010/91University of Michigan Press to Continue Publishing Joel Kovel's "Overcoming Zionism" After Initially Dropping Book Due to Rightwing Criticismhttp://www.democracynow.org/2007/10/29/university_of_michigan_press_to_continue
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YasharMJ Says:
Dec 25, 2008 - more reasearch is needed to validate your claims,mainly they were wartime propoganda that has never fully been researched because of laws set in place after the war!it actually feeds to the idea that zionists took control of the laws of europe, especially when revisioning the holocaust and many of those war time propoganda claims cannot be looked into because of those laws.
Goohuman Says:
Dec 26, 2008 - You mean, all the history you read supports my statements and you are still looking for a credible author that supports your views?There was no law created to stop the truth from being known. The fact is that the truth was the first victim of WWII. As the lies spread, armies were mobilized. Now the lies are coming back.Lies like, "Jews are pigs" and "Allah commands us to kill our children in suicide attacks against them." Try "We are the master race" on for size. Worked for Hitler.
YasharMJ Says:
Dec 26, 2008 - There are so many laws that prohibit europeans to go agasint the "official history of the holocaust", there are laws that put you in jail to 'deny the holocaust' , which can fall under such a broad umbrella. - for instance me questioning it, would mean i would go to jail in germany! if a government official knew, im questioning the holocaust, i would go to jail! no passing go!
Goohuman Says:
Dec 27, 2008 - After the war, when it was discovered just how massive the operation was to exterminate the Jews, documentation was done to protect the truth from people like you. They knew that it was only a matter of time before the sheer magnitude of the evil that was done by the Germans would become "unbelievable" to some, especially those with an agenda.You are questioning the holocaust right now. Why don't you research it? Read the actual reports. What the origional footage. It's still there.
YasharMJ Says:
Dec 27, 2008 - you understand right after WWII we went into the cold war!do you know what WAR TIME PROPAGANDA MEANS??lol there are tons of information out there that prove the holocaust has been overinflated!there has never been documentation to prove the germans had a 'FINAL SOLOUTION'!NON!
evrithnguneed Says:
Dec 28, 2008 - brave man
Goohuman Says:
Dec 28, 2008 - It doesn't sound like you know what the term "Final Solution" meant to the Germans under Hitler. Do you know what "Final Solution" meant?
YasharMJ Says:
Dec 28, 2008 - yeh to send the jews to palestine!!!that was the "final soloution", zionists twisted his words!!hah
mlafefon Says:
Jan 1, 2009 - Zionism?! Let me tell you a secret:This term, "Zionism" that you mentioned...-its not exist over a decades!It's fulfilled option, - like a child birth after successful intercourse We established Israel by hard work and lots of guts against Arab hate and terror We don't ask for anyone approval to manage safety or fight for our freedomSo basically, it's OK to hate Jews because of racism, ignorance or a bad family incest incident, but please name your antisemitic ideas in the proper name
fidsmistress Says:
Jan 2, 2009 - Yeah, and BTW the right term was TOTAL SOLUTION, that means that Hitler was f**n tired about the juden problem and he wanted that his generals finally give him a satisfactory ending, releasing the prisioners, close the detention camps, and expulse them from HIS country.
YozhikNZ Says:
Jan 3, 2009 - Ah yes ... the Holohoax ... another Zionist propogated lie.That old chestnut ... an exaggerated, politically motivated lie.Move along ... nothing new to see here ... just more "being anti israel is being anti-semitic" bullshit.(YAWN)
ikram310 Says:
Jan 3, 2009 - A rare voice in enslaved US. I wish US presidents and lawmakewres were half that couragous.US is a slave to Israel...and US loves it...
mlafefon Says:
Jan 4, 2009 - Advice to Yozshit- Don't yawn next to a shit pile (that thing above your neck)
YozhikNZ Says:
Jan 4, 2009 - lmao ... another Zionist mouthpiece, spewing bile upon the world."We established Israel by hard work and lots of guts against Arab hate and terror ..."Oh God - more "poor me, poor me, poor me" Jewish victim bullshit.Hard work??? Give me a break! A Zionist NEVER does hard work; they have slaves to do any hard work. Zionists prefer to broker deals in smoke filled back rooms, with the pen as their hammer and blackmail as their ink.Hard work ... ppppfffftttt.Israel is a scam. Period.
mlafefon Says:
Jan 4, 2009 - I really think you should read some books - your ignorance very pathetic.We work harder and study faster, that's why you won't find us serving burgers after 20.being a red neck is something you can change with the same attitude:Hard work and learningp.s- and maybe you better try to reduce some of your incest habits too
nystagmus Says:
Jan 4, 2009 - yea and "people" like menachem begin and ariel sharon get to become prime minister afterwards. we are definitely living in the twilight zone
YozhikNZ Says:
Jan 4, 2009 - Spoken like a true Zionist. You ridicule, without fact. You state arrogance and superiority with no remorse.When faced with questioning reason, you immediately play the victim or lash out with baseless, racist slurs.So now I am an uneducated, burger flipping redneck?LMAO ... priceless ... but a typical Zionist response. Move along - nothing new here.Just more arrogant, deceitful, baseless, distorted Zionist bullshit.
arib93 Says:
Jan 4, 2009 - Nicely said! I wish there would be more people like you who see through the illusions of Zionisme and what it include: American goverment, the media, the economy, Israel and countless other things misguiding the american and europian people.
YozhikNZ Says:
Jan 4, 2009 - mlafefon - you are a Zionist shill. You distort the truth to spew lie ridden bile. Zionism is a political movement, with the single focus of establishing the state of Israel. It has NOTHING to do with Judaism; Zionism is the most pwerful anti-Semitic movement in existence. A Zionist's arrogance places their word ABOVE God, for it is in the Jewish teachings that the Jews are BANISHED from Palestine until the Messiah returns. To STEAL the name of Israel and to establish a homeland is to defy God.
CRUSADERPASSO Says:
Jan 6, 2009 - you fuckin zionist are all the same,your words don`t pass above your dick because you don`t even have one .call hitler to help you call him at 1800-fuck-you israel is in germany the west bank is palestine.
mlafefon Says:
Jan 8, 2009 - "for it is in the Jewish teachings that the Jews are BANISHED from Palestine until the Messiah returns"Another scholar...did you know the following facts ?1- Jewish communities always exist in Israel Haifa, Jaffa, Tiberius, Hebron, Gaza etc2-"Zionism is a political movement, with the single focus of establishing the state of Israel" - I don't see what's wrong with that point3- "Zionism is the most powerful anti-Semitic movement in existence"..-now that's a funny statement - LAMO
YozhikNZ Says:
Jan 8, 2009 - So you agree with one fact and ignore the other two. Excellent. I guess that's better than making disgusting references to my mother or accusing me of incest. According to Jewish teachings, Jews were banished for defying God - FACT. Zionism, with its primary objective being the establishment of a homeland in Palestine is directly defying God's word again, which by definition, is anti-semitic - FACT.
exodus21v20 Says:
Jan 8, 2009 - When people believe in bible's god, horrible crimes become moral: Moses was angry with the officers of the army who returned from battle. "Have you allowed all the women to live? They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and turned the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. [Num 31:14-18]
Sword1204 Says:
Jan 9, 2009 - I notice something.When I watch this video, ads appears :- Conversion to Judaism- Rabbin TV- Jew charity- Hotels and tours for Israel....Strange isn't it?
PublicPolicyMan Says:
Dec 25, 2008 - great author, great book.its true zionists are making life hell for jews. never have jews felt so insecure in a land outside israel since nazi germany. random unprovoked attacks dont help innocent jews nor the perpetrators who are inspired by zionist actions against palestinians which has nothing to do with judaism. why shouldn't jews be allowed to live anywhere in the world without being told they have a destination to reach to be a good jew. in practical terms thats just not possible.